Spirit Desire performed during Sled Island on Saturday, 11pm at Palomino (Main Floor).
TRANSCRIPT:
Emma (CJSW)
I’m Em From 90.9 here with Spirit Desire if you want to introduce yourselves.
Jon
Hi, I’m Jon Inaki. I play the Q chord and sing in Spirit Desire.
Emily
Hi, I’m Emily, and I play the guitar in Spirit Desire and I jump around.
Ken
My name is Ken, and I play the bass and I do some vocals.
Kai
I’m Kai. I play drums and do a little bit of vocals on the records too, sometimes.
Emma (CJSW)
Awesome. So my first question is—first of all, welcome to Calgary. You come from Toronto. Is there anything you’re looking forward to doing while you’re here?
Emily
We were at Banff National Park. What was it? Thursday, we got in. Wednesday, we went there. Thursday, and it was incredible. We we are very sad to hear about the rock slide that did happen near Lake Louise, though, because we were thinking of going there, but then didn’t end up doing it. So our hearts definitely go out to that. But we got to hike Tunnel Mountain, which was so cool, and it was very, very pretty, and we had a lovely time.
Emma (CJSW)
Was that your first time in Banff?
Ken
I think it might have been just my first time. I’m not as well traveled as everybody else in the band, so yeah. Oh it was your first time too, interesting. Okay, true, but, oh, but it wasn’t your first time in Alberta, yeah. Oh, okay, that’s what it was, yeah. So even in, just in general, I’ve never been like that close to mountains. And just like, I’m very much a city rat. So it was just interesting to see, like, just so many different like, Earth forms and like, yeah, also the magpies here. They’re so cute. Oh my god, we don’t, I don’t, do we have them in Toronto at all? No, they’re related to crows. But yeah. So it was nice to see all the birds.
Emma (CJSW)
It’s super cool.
Ken
I don’t know. I didn’t really make out too many plans of like, things that I wanted to see. I just, I’m just overwhelmed and glad to be in a new place, and everybody’s really friendly. That’s one thing that I’m not gonna lie. I didn’t expect everybody’s super kind. Yeah, no, even we went to, like, rent a car, and then I think the app, like, automatically accepts it. So then the guy was, like, on a flight, when the app, like, accepted this request, and then he gets off the flight, he’s like, ‘I’m so sorry. I’ll like, pick you guys up and we’ll, like, drop you back off, or call you an Uber when you guys drop the car off.’ Like, he was just so nice. And I was like, ‘Thank you?’ Like wow.
Emma (CJSW)
We coined the like, Canadian stereotype I find comes from here. Everyone’s always saying, sorry, and yeah. That’s good though. I’m glad, I’m glad you’re feeling accommodated. Is there any bands that you’re wanting to go and see over the weekend?
Kai
There’s, like, there was some stuff that we want to catch and had to miss for a bunch of reasons. But Emily was really excited to see The Mummies. We did not get to see The Mummies. Eh, we will live. We got to see our friends in Stem Champ, which was way better. Yes, that was really cool. That was great, Jon wanted to see a bunch of stuff. John went to go see Xiu Xiu, very, very jealous. I’ve never seen him before.
Jon
I was really psyched to see some old friends from Saskatoon. I’m from Saskatoon originally, so seeing my friends, band Yarbo, like, it’s great to, like, catch up with people in this, like, weird middle ground of, like, neither of our, home turf. It’s like, ‘Wow, we’re out here together. Look at us. So far.’
Emma (CJSW)
It’s like a cool hub. It’s like a cornucopia of sorts. And people are just kind of like, all coming and mixing and meeting people that you know, and then you meet people that you don’t know.
Kai
And cool. We’re trying not to just hang around the Toronto people too much, because we know everybody. We’re like, oh, okay, you’re here and you’re here exactly. We have that at home. Cootie Catcher is the best band in the fucking in all of Ontario right now. So , Michelle got to go see we have a fifth member who’s not here, Michelle, who plays guitar also, and she got to see them yesterday. That was really cool. We all want to see. I think I like to think we all, we all want to see, Otoboke Beaver, very fucking excited for that. That’s gonna be crazy. Trying to see Slash Need. If anyone’s not seen Slash Need, that’s amust. That’s the other best thing from from town right now. And what else. Horse Jumper of Love. Crazy. Hopefully we could do that. God willing, God willing. We make it in for that. I really want to see Emma Goldman, if I can, that would be huge. Muneca. Muneca, okay, huge for us. Huge for us. Then any other ones, any other big ones, it’s crazy. The lineup is packed.
Ken
Be here and have the opportunity to like see all of these artists for free, because I’m like, everybody’s so talented. The lineup is so stacked, and it just like it keeps going. It’s crazy. Yeah, I also forgot the first night, because we got it on Wednesday, we’re so tired, we didn’t go outside. But Thursday, we got to see a bit. We got to see Baths me, Jon and Emily, fucking longtime favorite for us. And I saw a bit of Yaya Bey too. Was really excited for that so.
Emma (CJSW)
And that was, like, the album release for Yaya Bey as well, right?
Ken
Yeah, yeah, cool. I only caught the last couple songs, but so fucking good. She’s great, very cool, absolutely, cool.
Emma (CJSW)
You started, so Michelle was one of, like the founding fathers of this group, yeah?
Kai
Started as a two piece.
Emma (CJSW)
I’ve read online, but for the people that don’t know, can you take me through a brief history?
Kai
Yeah, certainly. So me and Michelle started the band as a two piece. We were like, children, basically, like, I had just moved to Toronto. She’s born and raised there. We met at a different show, and I was like, “Oh, she seems funny. She seems wild. Maybe we’ll see we can jam together or something.” Because I from the middle of nowhere, from Coburg in Ontario, which is nothing happens there, exactly, precisely, exactly, no. Nobody knows where it is. So I was born and raised there. I was just excited to be in a band. I never got to do that before, and I was just, like, very hungry for it. So we met up. We got along well, so maybe we should, like, jam some covers or something. I was like, 17. She was 18, and we, I think we were at our first, like, jam practice thing, and then we were like, maybe we should just write songs instead. We don’t really know how to do that. Let’s figure out how this works. So I was kind of learning how to play drums for the first time. She was really good guitarist, but was like, you know, we didn’t know how to write songs yet, so we were doing that really quietly, not playing shows, but just like, ‘Okay, let’s work on a demo. Let’s just hang out in between classes. When we’re both free, we’ll see each other when we see each other.’ We did that. This was in 2014 so we did this, like, kind of on and off for a while, put the demo out, played a couple shows here and there. We’ve been a band for like 10-11, years. So did that for a bit. We made a goofy little album with our friend in our in their basement that I think sounds really rough right now looking back on it, that came out in 2017 and then we started adding other people. We had a friend of ours at the time, join on vocals. She’s not with the band anymore, but she was with us for like, four or five years. Shortly after that, we found Ken to play bass. Couple years after that, we got Jon on the synth situation, started working on a, like, a proper full length record where we’re like, okay, nothing’s gonna go wrong. All the engineering is gonna be great. It’s gonna be super we had just finished laying down the bed tracks, then COVID started. So another two years passed. In the meantime, we started playing more shows around the city. We never really left town, just playing shows at home in Toronto all the time, slowly figuring it out as we went along, which I feel like was the story of the band. Mostly just like, we don’t really know how to play instruments or write songs, but we’ll get there if we do it enough. And, you know, learn the hard way, pretty much.
Ken
Like, by the time I joined the band, I was still learning bass, like I was 17, and tried to join another band and got Michelle to really try to play that. And then, essentially, like, why don’t you just play in Spirit Desire? And like, while I was in the band, I was still actively learning bass, which was like crazy to think looking back, but I made it work somehow, cool. We all learned.
Emma (CJSW)
You learn how you you learn by doing, right?
Ken
Yeah. And if you want something bad enough, you kind of like, I think it’s kind of just like, I guess, like, kind of like, how species evolve. Even, you know what I mean, you’re like, I really want to get to this thing, so I guess I’m gonna grow some fuck-ooh, am I allowed to swear? Okay? Gonna grow some fucking legs and crawl towards it.
Kai
That’s been the main story. I feel like Jon hadn’t really had a lot of band experience either, right?
Jon
Yeah, I’d like done stuff in high school, and always played, but very solo. And I think I had just, like, found the omnicord at like, a thrift store in Niagara, and I, like, learned it, and I showed them. I remember there was the one show at the Dupe Shop, and you were like, just run up last long. You should just run up and just hit a bunch of the drums. And I was like, ‘Okay?’ You’re like, ‘Wow, you’re an honorary member now’ and then, like, yeah, like, a couple years later, you were like, just join now and then we, like, we wrote some new songs together, like, with the omnicord, and we’re like, yeah, I figured out, like, more and more to do with it, and like, using pedals to expand the kind of capability of that, what is like a toy kind of instrument, like a very like silly, silly type instrument, but I know it likes those things.
Emily
And I’m the newest member. I joined, like, a year ago, two years ago now, yeah, because. Spirit Desire was one of—I moved to Toronto during COVID 2021, and when I saw Spirit Desire, it was like, one of the first times that I’d moved to the city where I was like, ‘Oh, man.’ Like, this is, like, when you see, like that local band, and they’re really incredible, and they really have their things together, and they have something really special. Because I was, I came in as a fan of that first record that they put out. And I was like, this has staying power, and it has a lot of just incredible moments and songwriting on it. I know you guys like to say you would learn that you did learn the hard way, though, because it sounds great. That’s how you learn it, I guess. And so I would just, I was friends with everybody, and then I would just fill in sometimes. And then eventually they wanted me to come and play, which I’m forever grateful for because it’s some of my best friends and such amazing people to get to hang out with and and help write songs and like, I’m really happy that this new record, we just put out Dead Pets that came out, like, a couple weeks ago, first time I got to do some writing with everybody. And it’s felt really nice and natural, exciting.
Emma (CJSW)
That’s so cool. Going from like, fan to member. Can you tell me a little bit more about, like, the night that it happened, when you were like, they were like, come into the band now?
Emily
Yeah, there’s a very specific moment we were playing. We were playing, there’s this DIY space called The Arcade. Shouts out to The Arcade, and all of our friends who live there, we were, I was filling in, and we played a really fun show, and I was kind of, like, getting the sense that maybe they wanted me in the band and maybe not. And I was like, pop the question, yeah. Like, they’ll be like, literally, some stuff like that. And I was like, oh man. Like, I don’t know, I’ve been doing this for a bit. And like, I feel good. And like, and then we all went onto the back, and I think we were like, smoking cigarettes or something. And then everybody was like, no, no, you wouldn’t. No, Jon wasn’t smoke cigarettes, notoriously. And then I think we all kind of huddled in a group, and then they all, kind of all the other members except me, like, whispered to each other. And then they were like, ‘Emily, do you want to be in the band'” And I was like, ‘I thought you’d never ask.’ It happened. And it was really, it was great, yeah, it was, it’s been an amazing experience. So I’m forever grateful for everybody in this band, yeah, letting me in.
Ken
Expanding more on, like, the concept of, like, friendship and making music with friends. I think now, because I joined this band at 17, I’m gonna turn 25 in September, and like, those are such formative years of your life. And I think to look at the situation I ended up in, it’s like the best case scenario, like, quite literally, Michelle. It’s like, you know when you have, like, your two dolls, and you’re like, ‘You guys are gonna be friends,’ and you just make them be friends. Like, that was literally Michelle with me and Kai, the room was already booked, and Michelle was like, ‘Ken, Kai, we’re all in a band now.’ And that was it. And like, with how relationships go, that could have been nightmarish, like, we could have been like total opposites, not gotten along, but like, now I look at him like so much of what I have learned and the incredible lessons I get to carry into the rest of my life are from all the people in this band. Like every single one of these people have taught me such invaluable things and shaped me in ways that I can only be forever grateful for. And it’s just like, it’s interesting that you, I don’t know, how these things happen in the way they end up and like now to think we’re in another like province, and we get to play music here together and explore it’s an incredible feeling to play music with people that you deeply, deeply love and like and genuinely enjoy being around.
Emma (CJSW)
Yeah, and I find that as a music lover, I don’t make music, but I love it. I find that you can hear that. You can hear when a band, like gives a fuck, so to speak. You know what I mean? Like they care about each other. There’s just a chemistry that you can’t replicate any other way.
Ken
That’s probably one of the best compliments that we get, and like consistent compliments, people always say, ‘You guys look like you’re having a lot of fun with each other, and you guys seem like you’re actually really friends,’ which is, like, damn, how many bands aren’t really friends?
Kai
I was gonna say, I feel like the main thing has just been that like, because we’ve been such a weird, like, local band side project, because all of us play in other bands too, and have been like, the whole time. And this was always like, well, when we have our time to ourselves, and we like, you know, breaks from life, we can, like, focus on this thing in the meantime. But I feel like the music has been kind of incidental. I think half the point for me, at least, like, well, especially when it started, is like me and Michelle, like, this is how we connect. This is how our friendship works, is making music together. Like, it just makes sense. We just have, I feel like we have, like, a really, just a strong chemistry that, like, you know. And as we go older, I feel like, you know, we’re on, like, our mid, late 20s now, where we’re like, oh, like, you know, life catches up with you. And if you want to, like, make the time for your people, I feel like being a band’s a really easy way to do it, you know, you have, like, you have to carve time out. And it’s so easy to do that. So I don’t know, it’s, it’s like, this band is half way an excuse to see the people I want to see more often. You know, I feel like that’s how it works.
Emma (CJSW)
That’s beautiful.
Kai
Yeah, absolutely. Can you talk to me a bit about your newest EP? It just dropped last weekend, June 13? Yeah, it was a Friday before, yes, earlier in June. I don’t know what day it is.
Ken
I’m still adjusting to the two hour difference.
Kai
Yeah, anyone want to talk about in particular? Anyone?
Emily
It was cool. We, I mean, again, like I said earlier, it was my first time getting a chance to really sit down and write with everybody and things like that. So it was really special. And a lot, we wrote a lot of it just in Michelle’s apartments, like we would, we’ll kind of get together and just play everything acoustically, or someone will. Michelle is really good at writing like hooks. So I think she had, this is for the song, “Dead Pets,” specifically, she had the like ‘Pick of the litter, I knew you were a winner.’ She already had that kind of in her head and like seeing it around, and then we kind of built off it. Jon wrote, Jon and Ken wrote the lyrics for that song. Were you guys in the park in Hamilton?
Ken
And I guess we did, we sat down together, and we did write together.
Jon
Yeah, like, yeah, getting through it just like the, the kind of like day of like, really recording it in Hamilton at what’s it called, Boxcar, shout out to Vince, Private Events at Boxcar, we were like, you know, there was the last, kind of, like, 25 per cent of, like, just really fleshing it out, or kind of just like, feet to the fire, like, ‘Okay, we gotta, like, finish this song.’ Like, now we have to figure out, like, what the rest of this song is. But it works. You gotta make the choices like then.Yeah, and like, thinking of of my pets that I miss. I know it’s a really universal experience. I remember my cat, Nesca, just like basque for it’s like, what you would cat call a woman with my mom chose the name. It’s like a little [indistinguished] You know, feeling really grateful for those creatures. I think it’s just one of the best songs of all time, the weaker than the two songs about virtue today. No, they’re from Winnipeg, get your prairie’s straight girl. And, yeah, and then I don’t know, it was like an experience, but also, too, on that EP, there’s the rerecording of one of the earliest things we ever did. Yeah.
Kai
It’s yeah, it’s a like, the first song is new, and then we have our little omnicord interlude. And we got yeah, two songs that are rerecords. One is a demo that we wrote a couple of years ago that we trapped real, real sloppy, real, real analog. And we were like, we’ll get back around to this eventually. And four years later, we found the time. And then yeah, “IDFC,” off that one is a song from our first super home recorded, super, super, super lofi DIY, poorly recorded album Adrian. But that song, that’s it, because we always writing the studio. And we were like, again, like, basically children, we wrote that song and over the next couple years, we just kept playing it differently until we were like, ‘Oh, now this is actually done. I want to get a version of this that sounds good down the line.’ So we finally found the time to do that. And we have two more new songs coming out next month, which are also from the same session. So we’re like, we’ll get these out.
Emma (CJSW)
Yeah, you’ve been cooking.
Kai
We’ve been cooking. We’re trying to we’re trying to cook.
Emma (CJSW)
That must be so full circle to have that song that you did so long ago finally reach completion. Because these things, it is the kind of question where it’s like, when do artists stop? Like, when do you know when a painting is done? It’s that kind of thing. So it’s cool that you guys didn’t just drop it there and be like, ‘Well, I hate this song. I’m done with it.’ Yeah, you kept working on it.
Kai
We play that song every single show. Close it every time.
Emily
We will be playing it.
Ken
Tonight at Palomino, upstairs. But like, even too I think, like, because even when I joined the band, like, from the perspective, because they were already an established band, and I actually was at the—so my friends were in another band, they’re not a band anymore, but they’re called The Gyms.
Emily
Shout out The Gyms, shout out Christine!
Ken
Yes, shout out The Gyms and shout out to Christine. But like, they played the release show, and I was at that release show, watching my friends, and then just being in the outsider perspective of like, listening to Adrian, I loved that album, and then just joining the band. I remember there were so many songs that Kai and Michelle would be like, ‘We don’t want to play this anymore.’ And I’d be like, ‘Please, please, please. I love it so much. I’m 17, and this is new to me, please!’ And like, through them being gracious and patient, they were like, all right, fine, we’ll entertain these songs. And I think through that, those songs had the chance to evolve, because they like, we gave it the time of day again. And then now we’re at where we’re at. And I think it’s that’s so it’s just really cool how like that has like progressed to now.
Emma (CJSW)
That’s super cool. I guess, on the form, I had a couple more questions about that, but you guys kind of already answered them, so I’m gonna jump forward a second. Yeah, no, I love it because it’s natural. We’ve just had a conversation, and you guys knocked off like, four my questions. I love it when that happens. I’m curious, what are some differences that you’ve noticed about the music scene in Toronto versus Calgary?
Kai
Oh, we have words.
Ken
Oh, well.
Kai
We have words. I love Toronto music so much. I We really do. I think we all do so much near and dear to our hearts, especially mine, I feel like, I don’t know it’s weird, because I feel like the thing about Toronto is that I feel like, you know, it’s like Canada’s New York, or whatever, you always feel like you’re on the cusp of something. And I think all of us have been around long enough where we’ve seen people, we’ve seen people blow up from scratch, which is crazy. Or, like, you play like, a little basement song one year, a couple years later, like oh you’re like, famous now, or there’s something going on. Some examples, Michelle, do you know Arms Length?
Emma (CJSW)
Yeah.
Kai
Michelle’s known them since they way before they started that band, when they were just, like, basically just kids. And now it’s like, cool. You guys are gigantic. Are you familiar with 8485 at all? No. So she’s like a pop singer. But we, we knew her because she played in this little twee, like pop indie band called Tea Room. We played a fest that their band made booked on, like 2018 in the city. You know, real, real great, real, great DIY stuff. And then this year, she put out a song with Danny Brown, yeah? Like, we just. And so shout out to Gabby. Shout out to all these people, right? But it’s, it’s so strange because you just, you’re rubbing elbows with people and like, these are your community. But you just never know when someone’s just gonna, like, get that rocket strapped to them, like I’ve been saying for long, so I don’t think we all I think Cootie Catcher is gonna blow up. If they don’t, something went horribly wrong. They’re in the middle of it. It’s gonna happen. Slash Needs about to blow up. We see it coming. Great, great people, great, great musicians. And like, that’s the thing, is that you’re always on, you always see, like, there’s a cutting edge of that underground, and to be in it is so inspiring. It could be really demoralizing, because you’re like, fuck, we gotta get good like, we gotta figure out how to like measure up to that. But it’s exciting, because you know you wanna, you wanna go for it. When you see it up close like that.
Jon
I’ve been really impressed in Calgary, of that all of these venues are everything feels like it’s 10 minutes from everything else which is really nice, not like home at all, where things are so spread out. And also too, like some venues we’re playing feel more historic than a lot of Toronto venues, because we have lost so many venues so fast, even like before and after COVID too, like it was, it just accelerated stuff that was already going on. And it’s really nice to see these spaces that go, you know, go back and, like, be looking at some of these posters on the walls, or find out, like, some of the things that played, because so many of those places in Toronto now they’re just a plaque. Like, it’s a place that’s like, yeah, Iggy pop, like television, like these people played here and now it’s a Rexall like, that sucks.
Emma (CJSW)
Yeah, that sucks.
Kai
We hate history in Toronto for whatever fucking reason. Silver Doll Room is a condo. It’s, left and right, things are disappearing. So I think the thing is, because of that, too, we don’t have a lot of places to play for kids, like not a lot of all ages spaces. Ages spaces, unlike when we came up, when we got to play places like D-Bistro or, you know, or Sheebie Jeebies or things like that, Faith, Void, any of these things that were like, providing that, because stuff disappears so quickly. Kids don’t have a foothold to, like, really start making music. It’s getting a bit, sorry, it’s getting a little bit better now. But, like, you never know when someone’s gonna disappear again. So I feel like it’s really cool to be in a city where, like, you feel a sense of history, and not just a sense of history, but like it’s all so close together, it feels a little more tight knit, because Toronto is pretty cutthroat, I think. And like, we have our friends, and there is, like, a community, but it’s a lot more competitive. And it’s really nice to see when you’re like, landlocked, like this out here, I imagine you’re like, Well, we have nothing like you were saying earlier. There’s nothing to prove to anybody. You just you care about what’s good. You’re not thinking, ‘Oh, I’ve seen this happen before. Oh, I’ve seen this happen before.’ You’re not thinking about how to present your marriage. I think you’re just trying to be as good as you can, yeah.
Ken
And you’re trying to make, create whatever like speaks to you and fulfills you. And you’re not really like, I guess, like, I don’t know if it’s a bad way to put it, but like, oversaturated by immediate influence, by so many people, you’re like, ‘Oh, we could sound like this, or we could sound like that.’ You’re just like, ‘Well, we gotta just start somewhere.’ And I think even that’s one thing I’d probably say about Toronto that sometimes can be frustrating. I think when you see so many people blow up and become so successful with music, I think there becomes this kind of ground where, when you’re making music, just for like, the fulfillment of it, people are like, ‘Okay, well, why are you doing that?’ And I’m like, this is still a hobby. This is still like, the same as people write in a journal. This is just a recorded rhythmic journal of sorts, like, and I think that’s sometimes that thing that can be a little bit frustrating is, like, people always immediately want, like, some kind of, like, accolades associated with, like, the music or project you’re doing. And I’m like, I just really have fun. It’s nice when opportunities come with it, like, even doing something like this and, like, it’s great, but I would still be happy making the music we made, even if we didn’t get to do something like this. Because I just it’s about the fulfillment and the feeling, and not like clouds or whatever the monetary value of it.
Kai
Yeah, the art is its own reward, ideally, right? And I feel like a place like Calgary seems like it’s a lot easier to embody that than, I think at home, where you get so distracted. I think it’s so easy to getlost in that so again, much we love it back home, it’s it’s tough, and it seems really like it. How long has Sled been going for?
Emma (CJSW)
Since 2007.
Kai
That’s unreal. We don’t have anything like this at home anymore, so it’s like—
Ken
I don’t know, like, how like funding for like grants work, but I am imagine, like, Sled it’s been a long time. I imagine there’s some sort of like funding that goes into it, which is, like, in the city, it’s like, even long standing. Like organizations like, we have this one thing called, like, Long Winter, and they do we like, I guess, a festival of sorts, or like these, like, like events, music events, but they also used to have, like, other artists. And just, even just the way that the city cuts down on, like, grant funding and things like that that make it so much harder for people to create and like, make things like this prosper is just, it’s, it’s tough, but it’s cool to see something like this somewhere else that has been so long standing and also so inclusive. That’s something I’m super impressed with how inclusive it is. It’s really cool.
Emma (CJSW)
My heart is so warm. I’m so glad that that’s how that’s your guys’s experience here. No, it’s, it’s really great. I’m wondering we’re coming up on our time, but I do want to, I do want to know what’s up next for you?
Kai
Ooh, good question.
Emma (CJSW)
You said two songs are coming out.
Kai
Yes, we have two brand new songs coming out. We’re aiming for July 13. That’s the goal. Will be a couple days before we play with PUP, which would be really fun, awesome. Very excited for that little milestone. Yeah, we got that going on where we’re we’ve always been a band, I think, really takes at our own pace. So I feel like if you condensed our 10 year-ish history into like three or four. That’s probably what most bands would do. But we’re always like we all play in punk bands and other stuff. We have lives. You know, things go like that, but we’re supposed to be, supposed to be working on a full length again.
Ken
The album is on the horizon. We are not rushing it. We are taking our time and cooking, letting it marinate.
Emily
Many phone demos.
Kai
Yes, many, many, many Voice Memo demos, many more, and micro cassette demos and cassette demos, we’ll do it all, but we’re working on an album. That’s the goal. That’s the goal we’re gonna be, we’re gonna be slowing down a little bit too, just because Michelle’s moving to Montreal come this fall. So we’re like, yeah, what’s the fucking rush? We’re all gonna be miserable about it. But what are you gonna do?
Emma (CJSW)
Sucks. Oh yeah, founding father.
Kai
Exactly, exactly. My partner in crime. Where’s she gonna go? So, yeah, album coming on the way, that’s gonna be good. But yeah, a couple couple cool shows on the horizon, and we’re so excited to play here today. It’s been great. I’m so excited.
Emma (CJSW)
Yeah, tonight. Super stoked. Well, thanks so much for sitting down with me.
Kai
Thank you. Thank you. Yes.